Yours truly will be talked out by noon the day before the Super Bowl. That's because as the Washington selector for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, I have to present three of the 17 finalists who were announced this afternoon: receiver Art Monk, cornerback Darrell Green and Russ Grimm.
I have been unsuccessful the past two years in getting Monk and Grimm elected. Maybe the third time's the charm. Or maybe I should have followed all of my male first cousins and gone to law school where I could have learned how to win an argument.
Comments (7)
It is a crime Art Monk is not in the HOF.
There are a lot of Skins "haters" in the room w/ you and best of luck getting a couple Skins duly enshrined.
When Dr. Z opens his worthless mouth dissing Monk, PLEASE remind him Monk caught 106 passes on a running team when no one else in the league caught 70. Remind others that Monk had the NFL league record for receptions without a HOF quarterback throwing to him. Steve Largent was a first ballot HOF member and never sniffed a Super Bowl, Monk broke all his records and won 3 Super Bowls.
As far as a defining game for Monk, please run the video of the defending champion Chicago Bears at Soldier Field in the playoffs when Monk torched that vaunted defense for 2 TD's, on a day that Walter Payton played his last game.
The NFL HOF has no legitimacy in my mind until Art Monk is rightfully voted in.
Robby.
Posted by Robby | January 17, 2008 1:44 PM
Just remind the other voters that these three men played on Redskins teams that won three Super Bowls but have only one Hall of Fame player. Joe Gibbs should be fresh in their minds, and it is long past time when the 80's Redskins should get their due.
Grimm was the best player on the fabled Hogs, which were the one constant through three Super Bowls. Monk was the inspiration for the Smurfs and the leader of the Posse. He was never flashy, but he was always there to pick up a tough first down or to throw a block on the counter trey. Green was the fastest man in the NFL, and he kept that speed throughout his two-decade career.
Green was a shutdown corner before teams knew they needed a shutdown corner. Monk was a possession receiver before anyone was catching 100 passes in a season. Grimm was an athletic pulling guard that made the counter trey work as it never had before.
These three men revolutionized their positions and the game of football, and it they all deserve their place in Canton.
Best of luck David!
Posted by The Art Monk Hall of Fame Campaign | January 19, 2008 2:12 AM
Mr. Elfin-
Please visit the Art Monk Hall of Fame Campaign web site and search out the "Cris Carter on Monk" comments section. You will see there some legitimate statistical comparisons between Carter and Monk which favor Monk. These include each player's top 5 games in yards and fantasy scoring, career yards per catch, and each guy's playoff numbers. These numbers will be put into perspective by the statistical adjustment for era which Mr. Macey of Football Outsiders did. This adjustment placed Monk's career reception and yards numbers one spot ahead of Carter's. Remind the other voters that the other above stats which favor Monk were accomplished without the legitimate assistance of a statistical adjustment.
Carter is not a first-ballot guy. If either he or his team had acheived anything in the post season then maybe he would be, but this didn't happen. His personal playoff stats are not as good as Monk's. His team, as a result, was 4-10 in the playoffs, while Monk, who had better personal stats in the playoffs, helped his team acheive a 10-5 post season record in playoff games in which he played. In the NFC Championship games these guys each played in, Monk averaged almost 40 more yards a game, averaged almost 6 more yards a catch, scored a TD where Carter scored none, and Monk's teams went 2-1, while Carter's teams went 0-2. If Carter had played better, the Vikings would not have needed Gary Anderson's field goal to beat Atlanta.
Posted by remember the redskins | January 19, 2008 4:14 PM
It simply is unbelievable to me that Monk is not in the HOF. But if Green is not a lock first time eligible then it must be a conspiracy. With the exception of Gibbs and Riggo you have no other HOFamers on a team that went to 4 Superbowls from 82 to 91. How many HOFs are on the Fins from the early 70s, the Steelers, the Niners. Give the skins some due. I am not foolish enough to expect great players like Theisman to make it - But Grimm, Monk, and Green were there for a long time and played at ProBowl caliber for many yrs. Still can't believe Monk has been locked out - if you put Biletnikof and Largent in?!
Posted by JohnBierly | January 21, 2008 8:47 PM
All,
Please check out my article on Monk for the Hall of Fame. I can also email a powerpoint presentation done by someone else if anyone is interested. Thanks.
Posted by Mike Frandsen | January 27, 2008 2:01 AM
All,
Please check out my article on Monk for the Hall of Fame. I can also email a powerpoint presentation done by someone else if anyone is interested. Thanks.
Posted by Mike Frandsen | January 27, 2008 2:02 AM
Hello all,
I would suggest you use last year reciever who got in. Irvin was the only option at wide reciever for Dallas while Washington always had 2 to 3. Irvin caught passes from one hall of famer or future hall of famer while Monk never had just one QB who consistantly threw to him. He had to adjust and reajust to at least 5 QBs through his career. It's ashamed the first reciever to break the 100 catch a season is not in the HOF just because he never talked smack or fill his mouth of himself.
Posted by Henry Salinas | January 27, 2008 1:34 PM