This is good. I would like to know where the DNC spokesman's partriotism was when Kennedy called our troops torturers, Murtha called the Murders and Durbin called them Nazi's. Where was the outrage over General Betray Us. If Dean is going to call the Republicans liars why doesn't he just come out in say it. Spurious is a relative term for lie, like "misspoke". These guys are fiddling while Rome is burning.

first of all..the country is going bankrupt because of the iraq debacle...and telling the truth about this debacle is long overdue....how people can defend john mCains 100 year iraq war...well they need their head read...

The photo of Mikey is most appropriate; it shows the team for which he is playing - as he shows the 'L' so it can be read just as if it were on his cap - he plays for the 'Losers'. The country is not going bankrupt is a fiscal sense but it's headed that way in a moral equivalency sense. The debacle of providing, by way of blood and money, freedom for well over 25 million people is a price well worth paying. Unfortunately, it was Carter (who keeps demonstrating how he is in the camp with Mikey et al), Reagan (when he abandoned Lebanon) and Clinton (who abandoned anything that had to do with doing the right thing) who put us in the position of having to clean up. From the very beginning, it was stated that it was going to to be a long arduous task to do the right thing; but, to some, a long time is anything over six weeks.

CDR, USN (ret)

Is it official republican startegy to attack any liberal or mention of their futile war and its consequences? If the ad attacks the "staying 100 years", defend McCains statement and quit attacking liberals!
If we didn't learn from the British Empire, the Russian invasion of Afganistan and Vietnam....the lesson will be learned by repeating history! As Obama says;"change we can believe in"!

Duane, Duane, Duane...

you seem to be a student of history, but I give you a C- at best. If you were an A student, you would realize that all the wars that we have fought since Vietnam have been "Blowback" (read the book of this name by Chalmers Johnson) from right-wing foreign policy. I give you Panama, whose Noriega was on the CIA payroll; the Global War on Terror, which is against another former CIA employee, O. bin Laden; and Iraq, whose Hussein had the pleasure of Donald Rumsfeld's undoubtedly firm handshake. What about George W.'s inaugural address when he said that nation-building and international "arrogance" were anathema to him. I'm sure you cheered when he uttered this ridiculous, insincere line. And you believed it, too, didn't you? W. says that only history can judge this debacle, this genocide-scale massacre of humanity in Iraq. Well, history has wasted little time in providing a judgement: yet another unmitigated failure in the large portfolio of failures of G. W. Bush. Saddam Hussein could never have destabilized the region or killed as many of his own people as the U.S. military has in these 5 years. THIS is where our moral outrage should be directed. I suggest you re-calibrate your moral compass, or, better yet, switch to moral GPS like the rest of the progressive world has.

L stands for Leaders.

Duane what do you mean we are not going bankrupt financialy? Do you know how much money is being borrowed to keep this war going? Do some research before you post such misinformation.

Duane,

It never ceases to amaze me how you right wing fanatics hide behind "doing the right thing" when in reality you support the worse possible kind of behavior (like lying to get our country into a war, torture, illegal wire tapping, etc.).

Duane - isn't doing the right thing waiting for all the facts before destroying a country?

The DNC and Michael Moore's movie were showing AP file footage. RNC says we are not seeing what we are seeing. OK show us empirical evidence to the contrary. Show us that McCain did NOT say he would be OK with us staying in Iraq for 100 years. Show us that W is NOT friendly with terrorist incubator states like Saudi Arabia and the bin Laden family. Show us there are NO bodies in the coffins coming back from Iraq that you are "just too cool" to present on the news. Seems the neo-Goebbles media hide behind slogans, symbols, and the trivialities of "gotcha" politics. We played "gotcha" politics. Bush and Rove won "gotcha." So where did it get us? There are 3 little words the new ultra right wing Repubs fear:"Is it true?" If not prove it. If it is, own up to it and be responsible. Now that would be a first.

Dear Duane,
I am grateful for your service to our nation. Thank you. Guess what, Duane? I'm a liberal Democrat and I respect the sacrifice of our citizens who have served in our nation's armed forces and those who continue to give their lives for us. I always have. However, it would be short-sighted of myself and every American citizen to not question the reasons why our men and women in uniform must face such hardship and struggle. W. and Cheney screwed the pooch with this thing. They've redirected our focus from the problems that our nation's people face to those of the Iraqis. They have wasted our tax dollars, and most importantly given away the lives of our sons and daughters for no reason. Patriots (in the United States) are those that are willing to speak the truth (war is an ugly thing that no man should face) and who speak out against oppression (see George Washington, John Adams et al) from self-serving despots like Mr. Bush and Co. Hail, Hail to our soldiers, but damn the bastards who put them there. IMPEACH and don't let their Reign of Terror Continue by electing their heel!

It is peculiar to watch with what feverish ardor America's leadership (Legislative and Executive branches) arouse to a sycophantic frenzy so as to veil the truth and manufacture unreality. Ever tormented by the shadowy suspicion that they might not have hidden adequately the path to the truth; their language becomes a highbred of double speak and superfluous gibberish. Jingoism and nationalistic absurdities punctuate dogma designed to conceal. Calculating despots, seize upon pandering automatons, who charade as saviors but administer euthanasia to a sacred system; though stillborn at birth. And yet, these trusted non-statesmen cleave to the things of this world as if assured that they will never die, but paralyze the very thing they have been entrusted to protect.
Our greatness has never been blind, unquestioning, obedience �but somehow we are becoming that thing we have held in contempt. Secret prisons of torture, destruction of personal privacy, politicians owned by corporate despots, moneyed campaigns of deceit and destruction, propagation of fear, cover-ups of intelligence that would have prevented the heinous crime and tragedy of September 11, and the consequent world of domestic spying on the current unprecedented grand scale we witness today (in contemporary times domestic spying has never approached this magnitude) and the erosion of civil liberties defines clearly the unholy crusade toward the end times led by a mindless puppeteer, subject of a satanic marionette. Diebold voter fraud, again will bring home a G. O. P. pseudo victory. These all, are the �NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND� curriculum of the schools of terrorism our cherished tax dollars and lack of voter participation underwrite.
America must wake from its intoxicated sleep and demand a return of what was plundered by an entity so evil and blinding that our shame, of innocence lost, has left us impotent. Shock and Awe had nothing to do with the criminal assaults against Iraq by this rogue administration; indeed, it was against America, the citizens, the Twin Towers, the truth, and our voice as a free people that Shock and AWE took our innocence, and perhaps our will. We must not retreat (cut and run) from our obligation to question the proliferation of lies and the insidious policies of deceit this administration and its lackeys in the Senate and House have perpetrated against ourselves and the rest of the world.
Change is not only desirable, but imperative. Vote out those who dare to deceive, and take the lives of our young men and women who serve to protect what they believe to be a noble and just cause: our American heritage; but have been used as pawns of a corporate oligarchy. Iraq is not about Sept.11, 2001, not about weapons of mass destruction, not about bringing democracy to the people of the Middle East, not about Osama Bin Laden, it is a subterfuge and huge blight on the American spirit of moral rightness. It is about Condoleezza Rice The Secretary of State ignoring an urgent C.I.A. message June 30, 2001 warning of a threat from Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden hiding facts so as to blame the Clinton administration for weakness and softness on terrorism�.out and out lies to terrify a nation and totally subvert the U.S.Constitution�..innocent lives lost and the moral fabric of America defamed in the eyes of the world; America has reached a new nadir. IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE!!!
I t is time to live out the creed of our founding fathers, the eloquent words of our own Declaration of Independence.

I guess serving y'all for 26 years so can call me a right-wing fanatic is the privilege of the protected. The fact are that over 500 rounds of chemical munitions were found in Iraq along with launching capabilities, Iraq was attempting to get yellow-cake from around the world including , " In fact, the Intelligence Committee report said that "for most analysts" Wilson's trip to Niger "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal."
Additionally, no one has ever said that Iraq was tied to 9/11, However, Al-Qaida was in Iraq, and had close contact with the benevolent dictator and his government as reported by the Iraqi Perspectives Project (IPP) report, "Captured Iraqi documents have uncovered evidence that links the regime of Saddam Hussein to regional and global terrorism, including a variety of revolutionary, liberation, nationalist and Islamic terrorist organizations. While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist-operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam's security organizations and Osama bin Laden's terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some way, a "de facto" link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust. Though the execution of Iraqi terror plots was not always successful, evidence shows that Saddam's use of terrorist tactics and his support for terrorist groups remained strong up until the collapse of the regime." Additionally, "And what about this revelation from page 34? "Captured documents reveal that the regime was willing to co-opt or support organizations it knew to be part of al Qaeda -- as long as that organization's near-term goals supported Saddam's long-term vision." (The example given in the report is the Army of Muhammad in Bahrain, a group the Iraqi Intelligence Service describes as "under the wings of bin Laden.")

And there is this line from page 42: "Saddam supported groups that either associated directly with al Qaeda (such as the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, led at one time by bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri) or that generally shared al Qaeda's stated goals and objectives."

Really? Saddam Hussein "supported" a group that merged with al Qaeda in the late 1990s, run by al Qaeda's #2, and the New York Times thinks this is not a link between Iraq and al Qaeda? How does that work?" Weekly Standard - Posted by Stephen F. Hayes on March 13, 2008 08:37 PM

Ah yes, Viet Nam, do we remember the killing fields; I guess the millions of deaths don't mean a whole lot, but when do they start amounting to anything? Let go through another holocaust and then wring our hands and lament, "Oh why didn't we do something? Oh woe!!" Talk of repetition.

Really, not diminish, but freedom is not free, and peace is not without conflict.

CDR, USN (ret)

Duane, the killing fields is a great example. We have not learned from our mistakes. We did it again in Iraq. First of all, Vietnam was a huge mistake, what came out of that? Are we fighting communism on our shores now? No, they are now our major trading partners. What happened in the killing fields was that Sinouk (sp?) wanted Cambodia neutral and kept it that way. When he went to Paris, the CIA talked his generals into taking over Sinouk's government so we could send our soldiers into Cambodia to fight the viet cong. When the US finally came to its sense and pulled out, the government collapsed. Yes the killing fields were a disaster but it was sparked by the CIA. It was better off when Sinouk was the leader. I feel this deep sense of guilt when I hear about the killing fields... and Kissinger got the nobel peace prize that year. What a joke. Now, what is happening in Iraq? By the way, where is Osama Bin Laden?

So, when will finally at least some of those started Iraq war be in jail? And how much of $10,000,000,000/month can they compensate from their pockets? This war helped Iran, and also helped some to do their 'reconstruction' and supply buz, and oil prise played good for them... Strange that Clinton and McCain, being guilty in this war too, still find it possible to run for an office.

I think we should get rid of all warning info on products of any kind. We don't want to disrespect those who have died by eating poison for example. I mean how gross for people to know about what poison can do to a person. Censorship is good. Censorship is good. Censorship is good. Please join the military so the oil companies and Bush family can rule the world. the world...the world...the world.

The dems keep funding the occupation of Iraq so what is their point? It must be something like "we know you do not like the war so vote against the repubs vote for us". But this is absurd the dems love the occupation just as much as the repubs. After all who would they be willing to give the Iraqi oil to? China? Russia? EU?, Japan? No way they (dems and repub) are keeping it for themselves for the power and wealth it lets them control.

duane u should read other books of history, some from the other side. "history is written by winners" ever heard of it? and ever thought that those winners may present u with another history than the real one?
grow up and don't belief everything ur rich leaders tells u.

Boil the reasons, intentions, and evidence down and what is left is pure economics. Also, maybe there was a bit of bad blood between G.W.B. and the late Saddam Hussein. After all, Dictator S. did try to assassinate George Senior. It is only natural for a fortunate son to put his army to the task of avenging his father. The truth is at this point in time our troops are fighting for their lives so the rich can get richer.

Our nation hasnt seen this level of corruption since The Civil War.

...and we all know how that ended.

No matter what McCain says or does, he knows he is the winner come Nov.

America is not going to let a woman or a Black man with a Arabic name run the country . NO Way. Truth be told the Dems dont even want this mess, and are running candidates to prove it, as they say in showbiz , Bush & Cheney are " a tough act to follow".

If the Repubs dont win , they still win, the last 2 elections prove that.

the Repubs are drunk on blood oil and unlimited power, the Dems are spineless and wishy washy & represent the same evil corps. that got us into this mess. "Change" is nothing more than a catchphrase.

We the people continue to suffer as we send our children to die in an illegal immmoral war, lose our jobs to outsourcing and watch as our currency continues to plummet.

Well, I remember when you used to spill champagne bottles in the gutters... Lethal weapons... You should worry about the information you get. I'm afraid of Americans, as David Bowie used to sing. Thanks God Mickey is here. Farenheit, Columbine, Sicko are mirrors, but who cares about mirrors, just rimes with horrors... The time has come

"Farenheit, Columbine, Sicko are mirrors" Umm, smoke and mirrors! Put down the Kool-Aid! It is a shame that so many non-Americans have the opportunity to throw stones thanks to our giving nature over the years. People need to take a step back and realize that there is a thing called "personal responsibility." We have abdicated for far too long. If you aren't happy with the results of elections, get out there and do something. All of the whining and Bush-bashing is old. The financial situation in this country is nothing near the ACTUAL recession that we were in when Bill left office. How quickly we forget that it was by the leadership of our now beaten down president that helped to keep us afloat. Gas prices are bad now? Yeah, let's pull out of Iraq and see what happens then.

Believe me, I am not being deceived by my leaders. I am taking the education of my children into my own hands. Would any of you Dems agree with that? Doubtful. I'm sure there would be plenty of thought about the deceptive reasons for my family's choice...we are just trying to break away from the destruction of leftist Groupthink. Our nation's security is paramount. Without it, we will be open for destruction. This is not the 1800s; our enemies can be here in seconds. Plenty are here right now.

Give it some time Concerned, the worst has yet to come. The buses that drive your kids to school cost a lot to maintain these days. Those costs affect the quality of your kids� education.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think present day gas prices are necessarily a bad thing. Maybe these prices will finally scare the politicians into condoning a car that runs on very little fuel.