Clinton cannot win on health care. She needs to point out Obama's deepest flaw.

BARF---------again.

Hillary, you are not that bad. You may even call yourself a victim of circumstance, you poor thing. You simply don't understand why sooooooo many people just hate you. They hate you sooo much, they rather stay at home, comes November, if you are the Dem nominee. Well, your supporters said that they would vote for McOld instead but we, Obama supporters, who make up some 65% of all Dems, will simply stay at home. That is how much you are disliked by us. So just go home. It's not that you are poor or short of things to do. Maybe Chealsea will have a baby or two, then you will forget all this and would even wonder why you ever wanted to a president in the first place. You may even say, it was Mark and Bill who told you to.

The only reason Clinton claims that her health care plan is universal, while Obama's is not, is that her plan requires people who are not covered through their jobs or through government assistance to buy health insurance whether they can afford it or not. Obama's approach is to lower costs to make health care affordable for everyone - the government, which is really us, employers, us again, and the group paying directly out of pocket.

If you were an insurance company, would you be more likely to lower insurance prices in a system where everyone has to buy insurance regardless of cost or a system where the primary focus is on making insurance affordable?

If you were trying to eliminate the profit motive from the health care industry, would your first step be to begin driving down costs and regulating the industry, or would your first step be to guarantee a large, steady flow of money into the (as-is) industry?

She knows how to fight to stifle and tarnish the lives of women her husband had encounters with. And when that doesn't work pay em off.

Hillary's past efforts on health care resulted in a worse mess than it was before she got her sticky little hands into it. I expect more of the same from just about anything she touches.

And what did she say LAST time when she was "exhausted". She wouldn't be "exhausted" after being awoken at 3A.M.? And what counter-to-verifiable-observations would she say at 3A.M.?

I support Obama, but if Clinton beats him, I support Clinton!

We're in a tought spot here because Democrats need to start thinking together, supporting each other, rather than trashing one another.

I'm voting for a Democrat this upcoming General Election. No McCain!

I support Obama, but I'll support Clinton if she beats him. Simple as that!

Yeah, she knows about 3:00am wake up calls,
usually it's the secret service informing her
that it's her "Uncontrollable Husband again!" LOL!

wow no hillary supporters? oh well me neither. I think that she is hurting the dems chances by letting this continue, and appealing to labor unions and such that she can relate is a tough sell her being a multimillionare and all.

You guys make good points, but affordable health care can be best achieved if everyone joins the system. Health care is an economy of scale based on diversifying risk, and as such the more people who have health care, the cheaper it will become for all. Currently, less than half of the country have care plans - Obama and Hillary have basically the same goals for health care because to make it cheap is to make it Universal.

I was allowing myself to have a little hope there for a while-- Obama, Clinton, not that bad cantidates in and of themselves. I'd vote for Barack if we voted among all the choices now, but i'd vote for Hillary, too. Someone, basically, who is not going to lob a nuclear bomb anywhere in the next four years, or cause such a thing to occur. This is fine with me.
Reading the comments to this story, however, my hope dims a little. What sick-spirited things to say. Luis, jimmyv, especially coffeeprince-- did you ever stop to wonder from where that stream of crap inside you is coming? Huh? Go outside and chop some wood until I say you're done.
America (yes, and elsewhere) will continue to have deeper problems and war until the issues of indigenous and subsistence rights are adequately adressed, and until racist philosophies no longer guide our intellectual, political, and economic cultures. I thought we knew all this already.
If McWhoever wins this bull$#!^ election, you will know why.
Be well folks.

Some people are wondering why Clinton would 'mandate' health insurance for everyone? Especially with the system as-is?

Well, that might be because she's taken more money from health insurance companies than anyone else.

Maybe in exchange she promised to remove that pesky % of people who decide not to buy their product. 100% of the entire market... yeah, that will show those fatcat health insurance bad guys.

She is going to CRY AGAIN on APR 20th to get all the VOTES she can and Betray them later just like she did all LATINOS after they voted for her and so she dumped Bill Richardson as no LATIONS left to VOTE.

CLINTONS are worst REPUBLICANS in DEM HATS.

Hear CHELSEY saying "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS".

I wonder if she said that to Monica.

Nader for president!!

In response to John's comment "but affordable health care can be best achieved if everyone joins the system. Health care is an economy of scale based on diversifying risk, and as such the more people who have health care, the cheaper it will become for all..."

If we look at who has health care in this country and who does not, it is not clear whether adding the current uninsured folks would raise costs or lower them. If the only variable were economies of scale vs. risk, then if you put in more folks who were, on average, healthier than those already insured, then the cost should go down, but if the currently unisured group was, on average, in poorer health than those already insured, then adding them would RAISE the average cost for all.

However, simple economies of scale vs. risk is NOT then only variable, so the above analysis is flawed either way. Competition amongst companies matter, which changes if people can choose not to participate than if they can not; when people MUST participate, then that takes away one check against bloated prices and bad service.

Insurance, too, does not exist in a vaccum, but rather has a lot to do with the price of health care, which in turn is affected by many things, such as the job market, malpractice insurance for doctors, funding for research to name a mere few. Whoever we elect, as president and to futre congresses, I hope that we elect officials willing to have discussions about how to truly solve the underlying problems that breed side effects like high cost of insurance (which itself is a cause of other problems), rather than to depict complex problems in an easy 'good guy vs. bad thing' scenario. We as voters, should demand such a discussion, and oust those unwilling to serious work on underlying problems.

What surprises me is the degree of hatred and bitterness there is toward Hilary by the supporters of Barack Obama. What about the message of reconciliation? What about tolerance of the views of others? What about simple good manners and consideration?
The personal insults, the below- the - belt stuff suggests the supporters of Barack Obama have not internalized his message about a more united American public.

Hillary needs to win the Democratic nomination....Obama is not a the candidate that could bet McCain. The republicans and the non-democrats will not vote for BARACK H. OBAMA period. He may have the charisma, but not the experience nor the intelect. I'm a democrat and will not vote for him if he wins the nomination, and I also know that most democrats know this is the case with many. I just do not like him and I could not vote for McCain, so I will stay home.

It's 3:00 AM and the phone rings;

Ring, ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring,ring...

The phone will ring off the hook if she is elected president folks...you have not seen a crisis like the one that literally says we have no money.

Think about the world bank forclosing on America! She will spend us into oblivion.

Health care is the responsibiity of the people. Coming from an independent conservative thats may seem unusual. But health care that is needed should not have the word "profit" attached to it.

We should make sure everyone has equal healthcare and still have a private sector for those who whine and cry about every pain or blimish. Cancer that can be cured should be cured, flab around your belly being removed via lyposuction is just plain dumb.

Obama would be a much better choise for the Dem's and McCain would be better (not by much) than him.

One more thought...We are the people and we are all ONE RACE not a yellow race, red race, black race or white race. We are one peolple!!!!

Vote using gained knowledge through fact finding and not by careless emotions.

Good luck to whoever wins and be prepared to back that person up, even if it is the BIG OL HILLIBUSTER!!!

Do you guys really think that universal health care is possible? It's not.
Even if the war was not going on, and we were not spending roughly $1 billion a day. Many experts are still saying it would take a 10 to 12% tax increase to pay for universal health care.
Even then what would it take to see a specialist... probably four weeks just to get permission and then four more for a doctor to see you, don't believe me look at Canada.
We can not afford national health care unfortunately.
Did every one miss the california legislature not passing free State health care because would call us too much and bankrupt the state

What specifically is "a 3:oo am phone call?" Don't take anyone for a ride.

Never mind the bollocks-- the comment by 'shalom freedman' reminds me that most of the dissent-stirring is transparent provocation and pseudo-clever attempts at image manipulation, by supporters of neither side. A sick mind stinks even in cyberspace. I still have hope that the sick-mind of domination is losing its grip on our psyches. So many folks have internalized the normlcy of sick ways of being.

Just saying, good luck with all this. I'll be around to clean up the mess, as usual.

Al Gore is now running, this will certainly mix things up a bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When Barack Obama decided to run for president, unlike Hillary Clinton and John McCain, he made the significant decision that he would not accept campaign contributions from lobbyists, special interests, and political action committees for his presidential campaign. It was Barack Obama's judgment that it would be preferable if the next President of the United States was elected without being beholden to money peddlers in Washington or anywhere else.
Barack Obama's belief that together ordinary Americans can do extraordinary things has been ridiculed by his opponents as just high sounding words and big talk from a pied piper. But when 1 million ordinary Americans use their credit cards and each gives $25-50 dollars with the click of a mouse to raise $25-50 million dollars for Obama's campaign without the help of special interests, political action committees, lobbyists, $1000 a plate dinners, or huge contributions from American billionaires most of us think that's pretty extraordinary.
Suppose Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee for president at the Democratic National Convention in August, and suppose on November 4, 2008 the majority of Americans decide to vote for Barack Obama, the presidential candidate who among many other things has refused to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists but has financed his campaign solely from the contributions of people to whom he is accountable, people like you and me.
Furthermore, suppose this idea of raising money for political campaigns directly from the voters to whom the candidate is accountable sits so well with the American people that they come to expect that future presidential candidates as well as candidates for other offices such for the US Senate and House of Representatives will do as Barack Obama has done. What if candidates who continue to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists find it increasingly difficult to get elected? Would that help or hurt democracy in America?
That's the kind of change that Barack Obama represents which concerns so many in Washington who aren't very eager for the American people to reclaim their democracy from the influence of money peddlers, individuals who currently make arrangements to provide huge amounts of financial support to political candidates whom they believe have a good chance of winning and whom they can then work with later on.
Don't let fear and hate mongers, talk radio hosts, smooth talking politicians, or anyone else do your thinking for you. We are at a historic moment in America. Barack Obama is a very special candidate for president who can bring about significant changes in Washington and help ordinary Americans begin reclaiming their democracy. Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey Jr. knows this and has recently endorsed Senator Barack Obama, recognizing Obama's integrity, intelligence, and the strong leadership he can provide as president. It is time for voters in Pennsylvania and in the remaining states that will soon vote in the presidential primary election to stand up and be counted. It's time for ordinary Americans to begin the process of reclaiming America.

Realist; I understand your view. It's the same view that those who support Obama are spewing. Can't you see, she's tearing your (yes, I'm a republican and I plan to cross over and vote for Obama if he wins your party's nomination because I agree McCain is clueless. Unless Mitt Romney is made VP and acts in the capcity as Cheney) party apart. Devided you will fall, check that devided we will all fall and united we shall all stand. So let's put our differences aside and get behind Obama as our next president. How can we expect to "right" the ship if we're all bickering internally. I'm sure every nation that hates us whether publicly or secretly is jumping with glee right now!

(the mystery: one person reading)

just for fun, help me fill in the blank:

feudalism; mass slavery; oil; _________

What will be the next generator of great power? I know: off-topic. I'm just curious on what y'all think we're going to do in North America. We've quite a complex infrastructure, that was built first on theft, slavery and then on oil/coal. What mass resource can be exploited so easily anymore? Is there anything left to steal? Everyone knows it's easy to be all ambitious and driven when you're taking everything you can get; its not quite the same when your cultural stability depends on acting relationally. So what next, are we going to eat each other when all available resources are directed toward maintaining infrastructure that consumes ever more than it produces? Huh? At some point we have to recognize that living processes here on Earth don't function that way. If you don't like the way things work here on Earth, well maybe you should leave. Personally, I'm a fan of living things, understanding and appreciating the inherent dangers and attendant problems.

What do you think? Will we bomb and Wal-Mort and cheez-whizz and jetski and strip-mine ourselves into rotting larvae in a nuclear powered desert?

I didn't think so. I actually think we are ready to begin radically restructuring our priorities in a stable and relational way that isn't an apocolyptic vision. Imagine such a thing! I think i might would have to throw a little dance party or something.

Good luck in that election.