Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said this morning that Congress needs to "find a way to end the tenure of Attorney General [Alberto R.] Gonzales."
Mr. Specter made his statement at the beginning of a hearing with J. Scott Jennings, deputy White House political director.
The Pennsylvania Republican said that Democrats in Congress need to work with the White House to end the investigation into the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys last year, "so that we are not distracted by these issues."
"We just have to find a way to work it out, Mr. Chairman," Mr. Specter told Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, Vermont Democrat.
Mr. Leahy, however, shrugged off Mr. Specter's plea that Democrats meet with White House officials in private and give up their request for a transcript of the proceeding.
Mr. Leahy said he did not think there is "any willingness on the part of the White House" to compromise.
"I’m not going to a behind closed doors, no transcript sort of thing where they decide what the agenda is going to be and there is no follow up," Mr. Leahy said.
He then transitioned to questioning Mr. Jennings, who is declining to answer questions under President Bush's claim of executive privilege.
-- Jon Ward, White House correspondent, The Washington Times
Comments (20)
This is all quite simple......The dems have no answer to any of the worlds problems, other than to turn this country into a replica of France.
All of these issues from Gonzales, to Iraq, to the economy, etc, etc, is all about not being accountable for anything themselves, because since they have been in the majority, they have the likes of Harry Reid who knows absolutely nothing about anything. Add to that, Nancy Polousy(and no, I meant to spell it that way) who's only thought is to get herslef infront of the camera, because nothing is more important than her half baked title of speaker.
Let's hear some answers as to what these light weights would do if they had the chance. This won't happen, because they won't commit to anything but constant name calling.
Posted by Tom Wolfman | August 2, 2007 1:41 PM
So, the president "fired" some AG's who have completed their term, i.e., he hasn't renewed their contracts because they didn't do what he wanted; and now Congress wants to "fire" Gonzoles because he didn't do what they want, even though Bush had cause and congress doesn't?
This infighting, mostly instigated by Dems for purely political motives, is a serious and constant distraction from the very real threats that confront us. It doesn't bode well for a positive outcome.
Posted by yonason | August 2, 2007 3:49 PM
We need a Statesman to begin IMPEACHMENT proceedings against BOTH BUSH and Cheney. Professor Fein, who was in the Reagan Justice Department and is a Constitutional Expert says this and he has no bones to pick with either one of them. They have abused, ignored and flaunted our holiest ethical reason for this country's existance, The Constitution of the United States! WE MUST DEFEND it and begin Impeachment proceedings!
Posted by Heidi Morgan | August 2, 2007 5:05 PM
Why bother getting rid of Gonzales. Bush will simply put in another that will bow to his imperial rule. The Bush Cheney regime has got to go before they bring this country to total ruin.
Posted by Philip J Dennany | August 2, 2007 5:38 PM
There has never been anything like this in history.
The Administration is turning our Constitution,body of laws and way of life into the Titanic.
It's dishartening to watch our Senate and Congress being railroaded and toyed with like puppets on a string. No one seems to get that this is perhaps apart of a plan to hurt our country and there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Federal Government able to right these wrongs. I guess the day of the great eagles are gone.
However I'm praying for devine intervention.
One thing is that Mr. Cheney may have given us an opening. He said that he wasn't apart of the Executive Chamber, I beleive him, that's one thing about Mr. Cheney, he'll either say nothing or he'll tell the truth. So if he holds positions that have been apart of the Executive Chamber and Federal Government since the forming of our US Constitution 200 Years ago,that of Vice President of the US and President the US Senate, and he says he's not apart of the Executive Chamber and Mr.Bush supports him and gives him alot of his work to carry out and set US Policies, isn't there a reasonble doubt that they are in their positions legally making their titles and the power that goes with them null and void and any political appointments that Mr. Bush has made null and void also?
It certainly is worth looking into so that the Federal Government can stop wasting all the tax payers money with these indictments and subpoenas etc.
Posted by Helena H. Ashby | August 2, 2007 5:39 PM
It's sad to see Sen. Specter today. A few years ago, he had real 'Eggs' and Integrity. Now his
'Eggs' are scrambled and he's joined BushCo. just to make sure he gets his penion with no problems. He used to lead. Now he can barely follow.
Gonzales MUST be nailed to the proverbial
'Cross' because he is so without Honor, Morality and Ethics. I wonder what form of Morality - if any - he's passing on to his children?
My teens can't stomach him and change the channel whenever he appears...Now Spector's on their list, poor old man
Posted by Joseph Conrad | August 2, 2007 6:30 PM
I just want to say that I agree with Sen. Specter about the fact that this whole investigation into the Attorney General is distracting Congress from more important concerns, particularly for the Judiciary Committees. I think that if the Attorney General is going to go (and he will, the way things look), he should go as soon as possible. In order to get it done soon, I think that the Democrats, however noble their intentions, should give up their plea for a public meeting with White House officials, and just plan accordingly to deal in private with Gonzales and the Bush Administration. The reasonable course of action would be to get things done, not to put a crucial part of our government's finest (I'm speaking of the Senate Committee) in gridlock over a pithy power struggle over conditions. As Nike says, Just Do It!
-zg
Posted by Zack G. | August 2, 2007 7:00 PM
I have a hard time reading comments when some of Know the real dark secrets- and one like anything that is of Historical shock and horror- People will put away the democrat and republican BS--
For the real secret is much darker than GITMO-
The story is not about Politic It is about the ART of WAR and article Three-- and IF you go back all the WAY to the home page of the ACLU_ comply or Contempt-- Everything War and Programming are Texas Honey-- and there is female in this story and Yes something Sinster occured and everything going NUTS cause what happened was meant to Kill her-- but hse lived and there was NO EXIT PLAN JUST LIKE IRAQ-- and Pictures change every program
and someone died in this story as well-- Human life can only be pushed so hard UNTIL the outcome has a the ending The Boy Gamer wanted Tragic
Like the mock execution he and his pal played and Vidoe taped
Sinster secrets and The ACT was preventable and no one stopped the Overt Force- what acts of deprivation created
some of do not care to save the lie- once another loved one had to die -- read between the lines
Posted by JENNY | August 2, 2007 10:53 PM
The president does have a right to fire the attorneys, providing he does not break the law. There is every indication that the law was broken and attorneys were fired to influence investigations and elections. This is illegal. It may be ok in the republican's old boy network but it isn't ok in the legal American network. This administration has commited crimes and must pay for it. Arrest them and send them to jail. Just do it.. and quit whining!
Posted by Ron Tuttle | August 3, 2007 5:52 AM
The problem is the President will not even allow them to use a transcript or have his people take an oath even in a private venue so that Rove and others could make any statement without regard to truth since there would be no ramifications for lying or ommitting information.
Congress would do this in a non-public forum if the White House would agree to those very basic rules.
Based on the administration's history of lies, embellishments, mis-information, call it what you will, I can see the reason for the insistance for transcripts and an oath at the very least.
While it is certainly within the President's purvue to hire and fire at will, that is not the issue with what was done and it is misleading to look at that and compare with Clinton's "wholesale" dismissal of attorneys. When you selectively use this process for partisanship in a department that is supposed to be impartial, and "above the fray" so to speak, you open yourself up to these types of allegations and diminish the institution.
Posted by Jesse, Virginia Beach | August 3, 2007 8:59 AM
All these months later and no one can answer the simple question of who made the list of fired US Attorneys? Think about that scary reality. In the middle of it, you have Cheney refusing anything and everything under the guise that he is not even beholden to Executive Branch law. I personally could care less if Congress gets anything done other than holding these people accountable for once in their miserable privileged lives. If they are allowed to stonewall the Legislative and Judicial branches of Government whenever they feel like it, the precedent will have been set.
Posted by John | August 3, 2007 9:01 AM
If congress wants to play the Bush way, they need to start grabbing power from the margins of the constitution just as he is doing. I mean, if you are congress and you make the rules-- make new rules! Bush has overstepped the bounds of the executive branch, and needs to be reminded where the edges are.
Posted by Tired | August 3, 2007 10:18 AM
If the White House would just answer the questions on record then this would already be over. They make it appear to everyone that they DO in fact have something to hide, hence the Democrats insistence on holding them accountable. Who is really stonewalling here?
Posted by Erik | August 3, 2007 11:46 AM
To yonason;
It is difficult to believe or even to understand why constitutional democracy (if we can still call it that) continues in this country in light of comments like yours.
Congress is not willing to put up with perjury or intentionally misleading testimony from the Attorney General of the United States. It is appalling that so many Americans exactly like you, Sir, are willing to do so. After being called a liar to his face, one would think that Gonzales would have the self respect to resign. Apparently he does not.
The United States Attorneys are not patronage appointees, in fact it is unlawful to appoint them on the basis of political allegiance and Ms. Goodling and Carl Rove knew that. A United States Attorney represents all of the people of the United States, he or she is not some political hack who gets the job as a political favor.
These are all things children are supposed to have learned in high school.
Posted by RFM | August 3, 2007 12:07 PM
RFM says: "The United States Attorneys are not patronage appointees, in fact it is unlawful to appoint them on the basis of political allegiance and Ms. Goodling and Carl Rove knew that"
The letters from the Bush-haters on this page border on the hysterical. As I read the Constitution (which as it reads, not as I wish it read) the President appoints ALL non-civil service positions. This includes US Attorneys. All Presidents routinely appoint and fire them for political reasons. The Dems know this full well.The Democratic Congress ought to start trying to rebuild America and stop adding to the already over 300 investigations they've started since taking power.The Democratic party has poisoned itself with a hatred that started long before Bush was even nominated. Such hatred does not attract supporters, it repels them. And finally, just how long will Republicans put up with Arlen Spector and why do both parties seem to appoint the slimiest people they have to the Judiciary Committee? Kennedy and Spector are both scum.
Posted by DougW | August 5, 2007 6:25 AM
To DougW,
Yes indeed, there are none so blind as will not see.I for one would like to see you to cite the constitutional provision you say gives the president authority to appoint ALL (or any) non-civil service positions. Or any constitutional provision that mentions US Attorneys. But I guess you like all of the "Bushy" apologists find it easier to demonize than to read. Try reading Title 28, Section 506 and 541, United States Code. It says that the president appoints the AG and all US Attorneys with the advice and consent of the Senate.
Nobody hates George W., it is simply appalling that a country like the United States comes up with something like him as our chief executive officer. Who is next, Larry, Moe or Curley?
Posted by RFM | August 6, 2007 1:24 PM
To RFM: "Nobody hates Bush?" Even you don't believe that and you know it.The hatred is palpable. I actually do not support Bush as President but in this case he is in the right.As for the law saying "the president appoints the AG and all US Attorneys with the advice and consent of the Senate.", you are absolutely correct. The Senate must confirm appointments, but THAT is where their involvement ends. The appointees then serve at the pleasure of the President. ALL US Presidents have routinely fired US Attorneys for political reasons. They are POLITICAL appointments. It amazes me how little those with the surest opinions actually know about how our government has always worked.
Posted by DougW | August 7, 2007 5:31 AM
To DougW,
I think you confuse hate with criticism. Nobody needs to love or hate our political leaders or even to suggest that well deserved criticism is "palpable" hatred.
Nobody expects a president to appoint the people who worked and voted against him to prestigious politically connected jobs. That is vastly different than firing them because they refuse to take orders to prosecute political opponents on the eve of an election. In case you missed that go back and read for instance the New Mexico case. It was not the only one, nor were the US attorneys who were being fired democrats.
Second, THAT is not where the Senate's responsibility ends, even though the "Bushys" wish it were so. They also hold the power to try impeachments brought by the House as a means of exercising a supervisory role. The constitution gives that power to the legislative branch of government with the intent that the power to approve is also the power to withhold approval and the office that goes with it. At the time the constitution was written, the Senate was not elected by popular vote, but was appointed from the House.
Third it is a clear violation of federal law to select and hire on the basis of political affiliation, the reason that Monica Goodling was yapping about her 5th Amendment rights. I gather you and people like you with your ardent desire to support George W. do not see any distinction here, but Monica certain does, and did while she was doing it. The statute of limitations is five years so who knows, maybe some of these reprobates will get the justice they deserve. There probably won't be any semen stained dresses for the public to gawp over, but you can't have everything
Posted by RFM | August 8, 2007 1:25 PM
RFM, you're being disingenuous. The absolute hatred for Bush in postings on the web is disgusting. Anyone who reads knows I speak the truth. I fail to understand what is so difficult about the concept of "political appointments." It is illegal to hire career civil servants on a political basis, not term limited political appointees. I've been watching American politics for over 50 years and ALL Presidents have always been free to fire any non-civil service appointee just because they didn't like their politics. This is not something that Presidents have wrung out of the law. The Founders were completely comfortable with the idea that the Executive would want loyal political supporters in appointed positions. Neither you nor anyone else can name a single President who did not exercise this authority at will. This is why the Dems have brought no charges: they are fully aware that this is, and always has been, completely legal. It is long past time for the Congress to start governing and stop looking for payback for the Clinton era.
Posted by DougW | August 9, 2007 4:01 AM
To DougW.
I guess your failure to understand what the controversy is all about stems to a great part from your inability to accept that there is much justification for disliking George W, Bush the politician (but none for George W. the person). For a hillbilly in a pickup truck with a can of beer in his hand, George W. Bush is the greatest president the USA has ever had. For William Kristol, Lewis Lapham and numerous others, a political tragedy.
I am sorry that your fifty years was not more productively spent, but you should have noticed that no president and no congress has ever tolerated the use of the prosecutorial machinery of government to ensure or influence party elections. Nor could they without destroying the fabric of the society completely. You are certainly old enough to remember a certain Adolph Hitler who created an entire apparatus within a very sophisticated democratic government based on personal loyalty to him personally,not the office. Where exactly do you think that was all going?
People who have power, abuse power, look at the warrantless and unlawful wiretapping, the unlawful imprisonment of American citizens, the suspension of the habeas corpus contrary to the explicit requirements of the constitution. All done without so much as a whimper.
As I said, the statute of limitation for most of these miscreants is five years; they may yet get their just desserts. God knows they have nothing to worry about with the likes of Alberto Gonzales.
Posted by RFM | August 10, 2007 3:21 PM