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McCain gets ousted from board for lack of straight talk


Sen. John McCain, a long-time board member of Project Vote Smart, was kicked off yesterday for failing to provide information about where he stands on key issues.


Project Vote Smart, which aims to try to get past the sound bites to find out where candidates stand on issues, administers the Political Courage Test to pin folks down on exactly where they stand.


McCain, who's been a member of the organization's board for years, had always been good about filling out the survey — until this year, when his presidential campaign has failed to respond to repeated overtures over nearly a year.


Richard Kimball, the president of PVS who considers himself a friend of McCain's, and, incidentally, was the man who McCain defeated in his first run for the U.S. Senate in 1986, said the board voted weeks ago to give McCain one last chance to respond and, if he didn't, he would automatically be kicked off.


That deadline passed yesterday, with no response from McCain.


Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama have also refused to submit their responses, but Kimball told us today it was a bit "embarrassing" for PVS that McCain, one of their own board members, refused.


As Mother Jones reports, board members have been ousted before for their lack of political courage, including Sen. Bill Bradley, who served on the board until refusing to submit to the test during his 2000 presidential bid.

The four-page test this year for presidential candidates asks about guns, health care, immigration, national security, education, abortion and many others. Here's the question on "social issues":


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Stephen Dinan, national political reporter, The Washington Times

Comments (36)

Looks like the straight talk express just jumped the tracks. McCain is a has been - without the fear of war, he has nothing to offer the American people!

Just thought I'd point out that tiff support is not included in the html spec, making that image fail to render in both FireFox and Internet Explorer.

So much for Mr. Straight Talk Express. McCain is turning into another NeoCon bastard that prizes oil revenue and government contracts over people... people from any nation.

People need to realize that he isn't the maverick he lets the media portray him to be. He's just another capital hill slob that dances around an answer and if he doesn't like the question you'll get his temper.

I guess we won't hear about 'flip flopping' in an election year where two senators are in the hunt. They are the kings of that.

Well, I say vote for none of them. Why do they insist on trying to stand on both sides of the fence on every issue? We can tell from past votes how they really feel (except for Obama - really too little experience with voting on a federal level), but they keep a fog of confusion around them so they can spin different messages for different audiences.

All 3 front-running candidates: Give it up already! Let us know what you actually think about the important issues! I'm voting for whomever fills out the survey first. I'd prefer a straight-shooter that I disagree with than a slick weasel of a politician.

At best, McCain's "straight talk" is another way of saying he will say what he darned well pleases, regardless of the consequences, implications, or facts. It is sometimes inaccurate and always undiplomatic. At worst, it's just plain crooked.

Do John McCain or conservative republicans respect the moral foundation of this country? The U.S. Constitution was actually designed, among other things, to protect the people of America from misguided government.

U.S. Constitution: Amendment I - Freedom of Religion
Right now, for the first time ever, your tax dollars are funding religious groups you may not agree with. To add insult to injury, conservative judges have ruled that taxpayers do not have a right to challenge this expenditure.

Amendment IV - Search and seizure
Under the guise of court action against abortion, Conservative republicans had John Ashcroft subpoena all the medical records of literally thousands of women just like you and members of your family. Conservative republicans are invading your privacy every day. Unfortunately for all of us, they don't appear to care about our U.S. constitution, or by extension, the people of our great country.

Amendment X - Powers of the States and People
John McCain and conservative republicans have tried consistently to overturn States Laws. They used your tax dollars to destroy the will of the people of Oregon, and the famous "Death with Dignity" law; they lost, but undoubtedly will try again. Conservative republicans and John McCain do not respect States Rights.

Amendment VIII - Cruel and Unusual punishment
Would you rather die, or support a government which supported and sanctioned torture? The founding fathers would rather have died, and in fact they were proud to fight and die for our government: A government which specifically outlaws cruel and unusual punishment for very important reasons.

I am one of millions of people that view this straying from our moral foundations as very bad news for our country. I urge you to keep this in mind in the coming election.

So what happened to precious Obama's "change" and "new politics" ?

Why isn't he being straightforward?

Because he's a fraud, and the product of a clever marketing campaign that is starting to unravel under scrutiny.

You know it would be nice to see where ALL of the candidates stand on key issues. All are flapping their jaws at and about each other. Who cares what the other candidates won't do. WE want to know what they stand for and will do for ALL of the taxpayers WITH details. So far NO ONE gets into the issues that effect ALL American citizens.
WHAT"S UP WITH THAT?

Had Project Vote Smart not acted to relief Senator John McCain of the burden of answering to it instead of to the American people then I would have advised him to do so.

I don't see why they would want a politician on the board in the first place...wouldn't that slant the views of the organization?

Yeah, I came across that website a few months ago. I saw that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had no responses to the test.

I saw that John McCain had one from a few years back when he ran for Senate; but as wishy-washy as McCain is, those answers are wwaaayyyyy Outdated.

Given the fact that he appears to be increasingly confused by many things of late, Ol' John McOld most likely simply forgot that he was a member of the board. For many, forgetfulness and confusion have a tendency to increase in the advanced years.

I found the PVS page to be quite helpful in sorting out where the candidates stand on the issues.
Their silence is deafing. When a candidate WON'T answer the questions, that tells me they want wiggle room to change their positions. All 3 of our Presidental Hopefuls are SPINELESS!!
I don't look forward to November. None of them should be our next President. If you can't stand up to us, how are you going to stand up to these rogue leaders?

We are in a sad state when we are more concerned who who is marrying who than saving lives. Improving public education isn't even on the list. Neither is health care. This survey is totally useless and distracts from far more important issues.

Oh I'm sure McCain's campaign just failed to give him the notification and he will step us just any minute with a viewpoint.

I personally don't care what it might be because I just regard Republicans as people who are afraid that social policy might cut into their capital gains.

Dinan you ignorant twit. If your to stupid to understand tiff formats are not for webpages, then get off the internet ya knuckclehea

A VOTE FOR MCCAIN WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER FOUR TEARS OF BUSHIE BOY

The unfortunate the reality is that either all three candidates answer the questions or none of them do. To be the only candidate to answer the survey would be political suicide for Senator McCain. So while McCain believes in the idea, he is also a realist. I assume he would gladly take the survey if the other two candidates would do the same. We all long for the day when all candidates will feel compelled to respond to the project vote smart survey. We are not there yet.

I'm actually sympathetic to the candidates not answering. The survey, like so many surveys, boils down a bunch of complex questions to simplistic yes/no answers that can simply be used as ammo by political opponents. My question is what was McCain doing on their board in the first place.

What do you expect from a guy named Richard Kimball?, the guy's a FUGITIVE!

Matt

Best comment on the blog. Don't you feel that software is increasingly written by people who should be doing something else for a living?

Problem with that survey is its all-or-nothing style. Checkboxes can't be qualified, y'know.

Do you support abortion rights, Senator? No way to say "Well maybe, in cases of rape/incest... but it's lousy birth control."

Do you support gun control, Senator? No way to say "Well maybe, when we have teenagers carrying around AKs... but I also support the second amendment."

Do you support affirmative action in college admissions, Senator? No way to say "Yes, but I oppose discrimination based on race otherwise."

Most of the questions I saw asked for black/white answers in gray areas. I don't blame the campaigns for avoiding them. Better if PVS had asked for position statements that could have been qualified.

All candidates seem to acquire "dementia of convenience" when running for president. Remember Hillary's landing in Bosnia under sniper fire? Me either.

McCain serves 1 country and it's not this one. Can you guess from his 3AM ad who it is?

Every time a columnist starts convincing me, I find myself reading the comments from the ignorant people s/he has convinced -- and I know I need to think in the other direction.

Frank's selective quoting of the Bill of Rights omits all the Amendments which the democrats are trying to dismantle, while trying to imply that McCain is in favor of torture. He is the only senator who makes sure he is always unequivocably on the record against it. What the heck are you thinking Frank?

Susana just up and slurs old people with zero evidence that McCain has any problem. Just an ageist, stupid comment. Maybe the previous generations were right in not letting women vote :-)

Crush has decided that McCain, who got the nomination despite the howling opposition of neocons, is one of them.

I desperately wanted to vote democratic to rid us of any vestige of Bush, but as I see the democrats, I just don't think I have the stomach.

To John Balio: Project Vote Smart enforces a strict balance of Democrats and Republicans on its board to aviod any political slant to the left or right.

Ted M blathers: "Maybe the previous generations were right in not letting women vote."

Though his comment is stupidly misogynistic, I would never suggest that poor Ted be denied the right to vote.

As far as old McCain's mental acuity is concerned, he has on at least five occasions in the past three weeks completely confused the insurgent factions in Iraq as well as elements of the Iraqi government. In spite of having been repeatedly corrected. Additionally, he frequently appears to be totally befuddled when confronted with questions about the economy. If he cannot think clearly concerning Iraq and the economy, the two main issues of the day, how can we expect him to resolve these issues?

Given McOld's obvious confusion and his short fuse, one hesitates to speculate as to how he will answer the the phone at 3:00 a.m. Perhaps he will tell the caller to wait while he goes to the bathroom.

good info. However, I can't find your opinion anywhere in here. Please give us more than just the facts. I love freedom of speech.

Ray

Good for McCain. The way the media and special interest groups focus on minor points he's better off not giving details. Furthermore without congress on his side it really doesn't matter what he prefers.

I can't vote left and there is no one to stand up on the right. I'm sick of holding my nose when I vote and hoping for the best. It seems to always come down to the lesser of two evils.

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Here's a question for the good Senator: How can he appeal for money from decent church-going folk, and the homosexual lobby, in the same campaign?


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Soon people will regret not supporting the "Unelectable Ron Paul".

Why should McCain step into the diatribe now. The Democrats are doing just fine at stepping all over the issues and each other. Right now the limit cycle is oscillating between 2. If he jumps in now the dynamics will shift out of equilibrium and into chaos. Lets keep it at 2.

Who cares about these people? WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT RON PAUL!!!

Indeed. The first and only good news I've heard for months was in a nearby article that says Ron is 'still running a lower profile campaign'. Oh, that I could get to vote for the first time in my life FOR somebody instead of AGAINST a lesser choice.

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