How important is Ron Paul to Republicans' chances this year?
Maybe this stat from the Campaign Finance Institute helps answer that question: In the fourth fundraising quarter of 2007, Republicans finally outraised Democrats among individual donors — but only based on the strength of Paul's donors.
Without Paul's $20 million raised from individuals, Republicans would have totaled $45 million for the period from October through December, compared with Democrats' $58 million.
Paul also set the standard among candidates in both parties last year for tapping into average Americans. He raised 61 percent of his funds from small-dollar donors, defined as those who gave $200 or less, compared to just 14 percent of Hillary Rodham Clinton's funds, 12 percent of Mitt Romney's funds and 8 percent of Rudy Giuliani's 2007 campaign funds.
The question for Republicans is what happens to Paul's voters and donors. Though he has not yet won any state contests, he has garnered support from hundreds of thousands of voters, many of whom are nontraditional Republicans. There were even some pundits who said an uptick in polling on Republican affiliation resulted from Paul's outreach.
What Paul does to try to keep them in the Republican fold, and whether they are open to such an appeal, is anybody's guess.
— Stephen Dinan, national political reporter, The Washington Times
Comments (175)
Very good point you raised.
Myself, I'm a Republican only so long as I can vote for Ron Paul.
If McCain turns out to be the Republican nominee, I walk -- and vote democrat in the presidential election (prefer Obama to Clinton II).
McCain would be the worst of three evils (Obama, Clinton II, McCain).
Because the Republican apparatus didn't want to treat Ron Paul as a worthy candidate from the outset, I don't think the Republican Establishment cares about the money-raising ability of Ron Paul, or bringing in new members.
It seems the Republican apparatus think's it can win WITH McCain and WITHOUT Ron Paul supporters, and are seriously mistaken.
Posted by dom youngross | February 12, 2008 6:00 PM
The weak-spined conservatives in the media who ignored Ron Paul and distorted his Constitutional message must regret doing so. Now the Trojan Horse McCanianc may become the nominee. GOP, R.I.P.
Posted by Jonathan Hodges | February 12, 2008 6:16 PM
The Stupid Party (GOP) has a choice to make - either adopt a conservative-libertarian platform that appeals to everyone, or keep acting like Democrats and keep losing.
Posted by Brian | February 12, 2008 6:17 PM
Like many others of my generation, I have spent my twenties disliking republicans because of the policies of Bush and the endless spin-selling on his behalf. After listening to Ron Paul and his ideas, I feel truly inspired. I am now a republican and intend to be for the long haul. Coming out of my youth, I have leaned towards the republican ideals of my parents; however, I had been unable to join because of how much I detest neo-con policies and their radio voices (Rush excluded). Ron Paul brought a lot of people who want to be responsible for their own lives in and a lot of people who want the government to stop destroying the law of the land and the bill of rights. It's not about money-bomb days anymore; it's not even about what happens on the days of the local to national conventions: it's about how millions of Americans will look at the policies of the government EVERY day from here on out and what that means for who we will elect to all offices from here on out. Ron Paul didn't have enough snowballs to win the fight, but his campaign will be marked as the start of the avalanche of Americans who demand freedom from the welfare/warfare/police state that is being built against our will
Posted by Mike | February 12, 2008 6:19 PM
I agree with the comments above. The consensus in my Ron Paul meetup in Salt Lake City is that Paulistas are not simply going to jump on the McCain bandwagon in the name of the Republican party. Paul supporters were attracted to the good doctor because of his policies, not because of his gender, his race, his looks, or his religion. Obama is not really ideologically aligned with Paul on the issues except for perhaps on civil liberties and foreign policy. So, if McCain wins the nomination, my order of prefernce is Obama, Clinton, and then McCain.
Posted by Jake | February 12, 2008 6:33 PM
Another interesting point to note is that Paul's top 3 contributors were from U.S. Army, U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force. John McCain's top 3 donors are Merrill Lynch, Citigroup and Blank Rome LLP. Furthermore, neither the Army, Navy or Air Force are in McCain's top 20.
Pretty surprising from someone who is supposed to be this party's front runner and has based his campaign on knowing what's best for the troops and country in terms of national security. Then again perhaps not surprising considering he says we should be in Iraq 100 years if necessary.
I will not choose the lesser of two evils. I'm not going to be voting for a war monger like McCain, nor either of the two liberals. This Republican is voting 3rd party this year.
Posted by Jeremy Wooldridge | February 12, 2008 6:33 PM
vote Libertarian, it's the real refuge for Ron Paul supporters.
Posted by tim Jones | February 12, 2008 6:33 PM
I agree with the comments above. The consensus in my Ron Paul meetup in Salt Lake City is that Paulistas are not simply going to jump on the McCain bandwagon in the name of the Republican party. Paul supporters were attracted to the good doctor because of his policies, not because of his gender, his race, his looks, or his religion. Obama is not really ideologically aligned with Paul on the issues except for perhaps on civil liberties and foreign policy. So, if McCain wins the nomination, my order of prefernce is Obama, Clinton, and then McCain.
Posted by Jake | February 12, 2008 6:34 PM
I agree with the comments above. The consensus in my Ron Paul meetup in Salt Lake City is that Paulistas are not simply going to jump on the McCain bandwagon in the name of the Republican party. Paul supporters were attracted to the good doctor because of his policies, not because of his gender, his race, his looks, or his religion. Obama is not really ideologically aligned with Paul on the issues except for perhaps on civil liberties and foreign policy. So, if McCain wins the nomination, my order of prefernce is Obama, Clinton, and then McCain.
Posted by Jake | February 12, 2008 6:35 PM
The question is not what Dr. Paul can do to keep his donors in the Republican fold -- it's what the Republican Party must do to keep them. In my opinion, as a Paul supporter, if they do 3 things, I'll support McCain. 1.) Adopt Ron Paul's non-interventinist foreign policy. 2.) Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank. 3.) End the drug war, which is the biggest danger to civil liberties.
Beyond that, they should also abolish the IRS and income tax(and replace it with nothing -- no fair tax, no VAT, etc.), abolish the department of homeland secuity, and abolish the Department of Education. However, if they do the first three listed above, I'll consider supporting the Republicans.
For a great satire on the president, the mainstream media, and the war on terror, see this YouTube music video from the international award-winning zombie musical feature film, "Song of the Dead." (www.songofthedead.com)It' stars horror movie veteran Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) as the president of the U.S. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits from DVD sales to the Ron Paul campaign. Go to:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw
Posted by mketcher | February 12, 2008 6:38 PM
Well, I have been a republican for the last 28 years, it is to the point now that there is little difference between the 2 (major) parties, I for certain will not be voting for McCain
Posted by TE | February 12, 2008 6:38 PM
I will vote for Ron Paul if I have to print his name on the ballot with a ballpoint pen.
Posted by Mike in Boston | February 12, 2008 6:42 PM
Most will write Paul's name in. Voting for either McCain, Clinton or Obama makes you part of the problem. Ron Paul is what the republican party is supposed to be. Why people don't recognize "what a republican is supposed to believe in" is a better topic for an article.
We will March and the earth shall tremble!
Ron Paul & Liberty in 2008
Posted by Sam | February 12, 2008 6:46 PM
Why must Ron Paul's supporters "go somewhere" as many suggest that we must?
"Going somewhere" is exactly what will truly dismiss our ideas from the Republican party and the American government once and for all.
We will STAY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
If we leave the Republican party, we truly lose.
If we quit when they reject us, we truly lose.
If we abandon our newly gained influence, we truly lose.
We will be unwavering in the rejection of our ideas.
We will persist.
We will work within the system.
We will grow in our numbers and continue to spread our ideas.
They want us gone. We must stay; however, we are not bound to vote for the Republican candidate in the general election. We will remain Ron Paul Republicans. Imagine the sizable impact that a changed Republican party can make. A Republican party without us is a Republican party without our ideas.
We will talk to Republicans and help them realize that "the emperor has no clothes" converting Republicans to "Ron Paul Republicans." The Republican party -- this powerful vessel -- is full of people voting with direction given to them by the conglomerated media. We will give the voters some direction.
Posted by William | February 12, 2008 6:51 PM
I am a registered Republican, but I was going to change my party affiliation (to Libertarian) last year, until I heard about Ron Paul. If the election comes down to Obama or Clinton against McCain, I don't think that I will even vote in November because I don't know which is worse.....I'm tired of voting for the "lesser of two evils". After the presidential race, I will probably change parties.
Posted by Tina | February 12, 2008 6:51 PM
Paul will not endorse any Neo-con republican that has abandoned the traditional conservative priciples of the Republican party. I for one have been a strong Republican all my life, (am now 45) but I will never support the likes of McCain. I will either not vote or write in Ron Paul.
Posted by Jay | February 12, 2008 6:52 PM
Well said. I will vote for Obama as well, but the only one I really like is Ron Paul.
Posted by Geoffrey | February 12, 2008 6:53 PM
There are voters like that below, or voters like me that will not vote at all unless Ron Paul is on the ticket, or vote third party such as libertarian. There are millions of voters that won't buy into the 'selection' process of choosing the lesser of two evils. The majority of Ron Paul supporters vote on principle. We won't settle for evil, we'll write in 'good' if we have to.
Posted by Phil | February 12, 2008 6:57 PM
I am a Republican so long as it makes sense to say there are Ron Paul Republicans.
Posted by Mark | February 12, 2008 6:57 PM
Great point! Ron Paul is a very unique politician. He is able to reach out to the pulse of Americans that's why you see all of those small donations of $25 or $50. He is the man of the common man spreading the message of abolishing the IRS and staying out of the affairs of other nations...simple idea that many American either didn't believe could happen or never heard the message because of the media blackout. Hopefully Ron Paul's name will be on the ballot in November if not I'll vote third party.
Posted by Timothy | February 12, 2008 6:58 PM
I will write-in Paul's name if I have to. I don't feel that any other candidate deserves my vote.
Posted by josh | February 12, 2008 7:01 PM
This is a good point indeed, except for one point, which I cannot agree with. I am a traditional Republican . . . in the same way that our founder Thomas Jefferson was a Republican. Just because We the People who support Ron Paul are far more educated in areas of monetary policy, foreign policy, and history in general, than the neo-conservative pseudo issue voters does not mean that we are not Republicans. We are just better informed.
Posted by Joshua Caleb | February 12, 2008 7:02 PM
Dom is right, I'm a lifelong republican but will be voting for Obama in November if he can get the nomination. I'm also contemplating a switch out of the GOP as they have disgraced conservative values with their neo-con views.
McCain can't win, Hillary can't win and if we have to choose between the 2- America can't win.
Posted by kda1000 | February 12, 2008 7:05 PM
If Ron Paul isn't on the ballot in November,I write him in. If I can't write in, I won't vote.
Posted by Gary Brownfield | February 12, 2008 7:10 PM
Ron Paul has no chance in the Ohio race either, but I will vote for him in the Primary anyway. The GOP does not get it again...but it may get it's hat handed to it in November. Conservatives and Independents alike do not have a viable candidate. Who ever would have thought a possible Democratic VP candidate for John Kerry would get the 2008 nomination...it is a sad day for the Republican Party...R.I.P.
Posted by Russ Ramey | February 12, 2008 7:31 PM
Congratulations Americans, you're going to get the president you so richly deserve.
McCain is a member of the Keating 5.
Clinton's involvement in Whitewater is coming back.
And Obama... Well, he at least doesn't have any track record I can readily complain about other than his statement that he's willing to use military force against Iran.
Enjoy the bed you've made, chumps! I will.
Posted by Richard Wicks | February 12, 2008 7:37 PM
I'm trying to figure out if I should write in Ron Paul or Hannah Montana at the general election.
Seriously, though, I never intended to vote until there was Ron Paul and I probably never will again.
Posted by Tony Hughes | February 12, 2008 7:39 PM
Those who like Ron Paul would also vote for others like Barry Goldwater or Robert Taft, even Pat Buchanan if he ran (though Paul's more libertarian fans wouldn't like his social conservatism particularly). But if the party continues to support the Patriot Act, torture, and wars, we will vote elsewhere or run as candidates ourselves.
Posted by Brent | February 12, 2008 7:41 PM
What happens to the Ron Paul voters? Speaking for myself, unless a candidate has Ron Paul's voting record I won't vote for him. Considering the current state of the GOP, deeply entangled with the neo-cons, I'm lost to the GOP. You can write me off. I have found the real deal and I won't settle for less. I have never given a penny to a politician... and I have grandchildren, so I'm no spring chicken, but Ron Paul got the maximum from me. When people like Bush, Dole and Kemp tell me that McCain is a true conservative, I get the message. The demise of the GOP is all but done.
Posted by Albert Meyer | February 12, 2008 7:46 PM
"Ron Paul Republicans" have a serious distaste for blind party loyalty especially in this year when fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, and honest foreign policy were all suddenly spun as anathema to the national party core. Furthermore the national party was particularly venemous and unfair to our candidate of choice.
What on earth happened to the party leaders?
Every candidate but Paul had no way to pay for the out of control spending, no adequate grasp of foreign policy, and troubling questions with regard to traditional social conservative appeal.
I've voted Republican in every Presidential election I've ever voted and in most local contests as well. But this 34 year old is likely to vote Democratic this year. I've never thought there was anything "magical" about the "D" or the "R" by a politician's name.
It just used to be that those with the "R" represented my values.
At least with somebody like Barack he talks about reining in our out-of-control military adventurism. Non-military Presidential proposals still seem to get some checks and balances in Congress so I fear Obama largesse much less than McCain's sure-to-be-rubber-stamped military largesse as he bomb-bomb-bombs Iran and more. Finally, Obama actually proposes honest discussions about where his national spending dollars would come from -- he talks about repealing the Bush tax cuts on the top 6% of wealthy Americans. Maybe it won't happen, maybe you oppose it, but at least he doesn't make wild-eyed statements about spending whatever it takes while promising to just borrow from the Chinese . . . like the Republicans this year.
Posted by Doug Bayless | February 12, 2008 7:47 PM
Karma is gonna kill the GOP
Posted by M Barnes | February 12, 2008 7:52 PM
I think Ron Paul is more important to the Republican Party than they think or will admit to. Being a registered Republican for the past 15 years I have noticed something about the party. The ones leading the pack are not really conservative. The one true conservative that would have any chance of beating Obama or Hillary in an open debate is completely shunned by his own party. I really cant tell the difference between the two party's anymore. It's refreshing when you come across an honest politician.
Posted by jon s. | February 12, 2008 7:55 PM
I know I emailed the GOP chairman and warned him that the party was making a terrible error in judgment by trying to marginalize and ignore Congressman Paul. The demographics of typical Republicans are aging, and young people 18-30 are overwhelmingly supporting Democrats. Here was an excellent opportunity to attract younger and motivated voters to the party and the leadership decided that Congressman Paul and his supporters were not welcome or needed. They may well pay a very high price for their lack of vision. The big tent turned out to be much smaller than advertised. They will lose many of the supporters and their funds, and live to regret their actions.
Posted by D.Gallion | February 12, 2008 7:57 PM
Ron Paul speaks clearly, using facts and with the intention of clarifying complex issues. He seems to understand the original nature of argument. Yes, he's been marginalised by everyone, except his own supporters, who had to find out about him the hard way. The BCC and the British press have also ignored him. The big media in the US has characterised him as a no-hoper and his followers as 'nutty'. Funny, isn't it? What will happen next if John McCain bombs Iran?
Posted by Pantagruella | February 12, 2008 8:00 PM
Thanks for the straight talk. I'm a Ron Paul Republican and will write in if need be. Jonboy would get eaten alive by those two mostly because of his recent barbaric displays of warlust. And I'm sure in the near future he'll bust out another nugget or two, just you watch.
Posted by Dreamwhileyousleep | February 12, 2008 8:05 PM
I already gave my all to Ron Paul. I gave to his message, not to the party. The GOP has some serious problems with those of us who believe in small government and limited international influence.
Posted by DigitalBob | February 12, 2008 8:08 PM
Don't forget that Ron Paul got the most money from active duty military personnel than all other candidates combined, Republican or Democrat.
Not one Ron Paul supporter will give a red cent to any other campaign. If Ron Paul is not the nominee, Ron Paul supporters will not sit at home, but likely will vote Democrat or write Ron Paul's name in on the ballot.
Posted by TTexas | February 12, 2008 8:14 PM
^^^ Agree. One of the true issues today is that individuals are holding party over country and that is the wrong way to look at things. People seem to be okay voting against their conscience as long as it's the party line.
As far as I see it, if you put anything above country, you don't belong at the polls and it's a good thing we have the electoral college still.
Posted by Christopher Bousquet | February 12, 2008 8:14 PM
Isn't obvious by now that we are seeing the end of the GOP? The one last chance to get fresh and dedicated group of people who were brought by Ron Paul was totally destroyed. GOP is not even pretending to hide the falcification of the elections.
Well good riddance!
I just don't see that any honest american(excluding couch potato brains) will ever vote for the war mongerer who doesn't have a clue about economy. In this choice even Hillary is better than a fanatic McCain.
GOP = RIP
Posted by Anonymous | February 12, 2008 8:20 PM
I agree with Youngross, I'm a Ron Paul Republican, but I only choose Obama over McCain because of Obama's stance on foreign policy, the rest of his campaign is mega spending and taxing, the highest of all other candidates. People who chose Hillary or Obama from the outset are pro-Nanny State government, aka socialism... here's my money and here's his and her's too, please spend it like this... pretty please. Oh wait not like that...
Posted by scott | February 12, 2008 8:22 PM
That's the big question, I switched parties to be able to vote for Ron Paul. My core values are strict constitutionalist and quite conservative. The GOP has pushed my views to the fringe and I will not vote for McCain out fear of Democrats. I'm told the conservative movement is dead, we'll see.
Posted by Ronald Olson | February 12, 2008 8:27 PM
Congressman Paul's voters and donors are still supporter Ron Paul. We're also voting and supporting like minded republicans, and reshaping the party in the process.
Posted by Chris Knutson | February 12, 2008 8:41 PM
I am a republican, but will in no way ever vote for a republican again who does not follow the principles of the constitution and thus, Ron Paul. However, I will not vote for the democrats either. I will abstain or write in Paul.
Posted by Andrew | February 12, 2008 8:45 PM
Ron Paul supports are not going to transfer to McCain, that much is for sure.
FJH
http://brushfires2008.com/2008/02/11/dr-ron-paul-to-back-john-mccain/
Posted by Fielding J. Hurst | February 12, 2008 8:45 PM
I find it hilarious that the GOP treats the most conservative man in the race like a bastard step child. Seeing as how the GOP has screwed their base, they should feel lucky so many people believe in Ron Paul enough to switch parties, or sign up!!
Ron Paul rocks. Hes got the best voting record, the best understanding of our monetary system, he gets the most money from troops.. and beyond all of that, he takes his oath of office seriously.
Its a sad day in America, after being screwed over for so long by both sides of the isle, that when the best candidate comes along with Americas best interests in mind, the plan, wisdom and common sense to put America first and back on track... and he is shunned.
Posted by Parke | February 12, 2008 8:45 PM
I will make this short and sweet.
Paul supporters are "Traditional" republicans, its the current party stronghold that is not!
History check anyone?
Whats next?
Well it looks like McCain will be the nominee.
So, its time to dismantle the hijackers of our party and rebuild it one piece at a time.
Lets see how the current GOP does without the 6 to 10% of Paul supporters.
P.S. If I wanted to vote for a democrat (McCain) I would vote for Obama.
Posted by Dean | February 12, 2008 8:53 PM
The GOP knew all along that they could not defeat the Dems with anyone other than Ron Paul. So much of a threat to the establishment elite is Ron Paul that partisan politics became secondary to protecting their fiefdom. So the GOP and the polluted stream media shunned Paul so that the average snoozing voter would not wake up to his message. The majority of the American voters see all of the other GOP candidates as nothing more than GWB clones. That's why the Dem to GOP vote ratio is out of the park and that's why McCain will be shredded in the general election.
So, score this battle to the elite and their puppets. But the war is far from over... the Revolution continues. Patriotic Americans will return this nation to one of law as defined by the Constitution. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by USAF Vet Dan | February 12, 2008 8:59 PM
I'm a lifelong republican who will probably register as an independent after this election year. Ron Paul finally put forth a message I can fully support, and it was utterly ignored.
John McCain is not someone I can even "settle" for, and his nomination will be detrimental to the republican party (hopefully).
Posted by Rick | February 12, 2008 9:09 PM
I donated a total of $800 to Ron Paul's campaign.
Without Ron Paul in contention we do not have a candidate who is both against the war and a very strong supporter of boarder security and protecting our sovereignty.
The Democratic candidates to some degree want to give illegal aliens drivers licenses or a "path to citizenship" (which is the new more politically correct term for "granting amnesty").
The two other Republican candidates want to push us farther into war and have the U.S. be the world's self-appointed policeman. I for one would rather see a trillion dollars spent on things like our decaying and falling bridges and protecting our boarders.
For a moderate like myself who voted for Reagan twice and Clinton twice this time around Ron Paul seemed like the logical choice. With Ron Paul we were getting the best of both sides (strong boarder security and he voted against the war).
I cannot see myself voting for the co-sponsor of the Kennedy-McCain immigration bill.
Being from Illinois I also cannot see myself voting for Obama who showed questionable character in real estate dealings here, and if it wasn't for the Republican party in Illinois shooting itself in the foot when Obama was running he would never have been elected to the U.S, Senate. When Ryan stepped down from the race, rather then putting in Oberweis who came in a close second and who would have easily beaten Obama, they chose the carpetbagger Alan Keyes who started his campaign by announcing that "Jesus Christ would not vote for Obama". In the general election to quote Jon Stewart of the Daily Show "only those who wear tin foil hats in Illinois voted for Alan Keyes".
If he were still in the race I would have voted for Mitt Romney in the general election.
To say the least I do not like Hillary, but I would take her over either McCain or Obama.
Posted by John Baker | February 12, 2008 9:21 PM
"The principles I stand for -- limited government, non-interventionism, respect for individual rights, and strict adherence to the Constitution -- have a long and proud tradition in the Republican Party.
Enough said. Oh yea, by the way, Dr. Paul was the 1st candidate to mention repealing the IRS and reducing expenditures. Funny how his message is now an issue without any mention of the first to make it vocal. Did you folks hear his CPAC speech? Good stuff.
Posted by PaulFdot | February 12, 2008 9:35 PM
The Republican party is lost. They treated Ron Paul with disdain when he was the only candidate with a truly conservative record. Even though he was more Republican than any of the others they would call him a Libertarian. The endless-global-war-on-radical-islamo-extremist-jihadist-terror is just too important to the Neoconservatives that have hijacked the party. Oh well, now we're stuck with that nut John McCain and the GOP stands to lose everything.
Posted by EndlessGlobalWarsRUs | February 12, 2008 9:36 PM
Registered to vote Republican to support
Ron Paul.
I'll never vote for McCain and his 100 years of
war. More war, more death, more debt and
even willing to first strike with nukes.
What happened to this country, what happened to this party ?
I'm writing Dr. Paul's name in.
Posted by d welch | February 12, 2008 9:44 PM
I agree completly with Dom who said:
"Myself, I'm a Republican only so long as I can vote for Ron Paul.
If McCain turns out to be the Republican nominee, I walk -- and vote democrat in the presidential election (prefer Obama to Clinton II).
McCain would be the worst of three evils (Obama, Clinton II, McCain).
Because the Republican apparatus didn't want to treat Ron Paul as a worthy candidate from the outset, I don't think the Republican Establishment cares about the money-raising ability of Ron Paul, or bringing in new members.
It seems the Republican apparatus think's it can win WITH McCain and WITHOUT Ron Paul supporters, and are seriously mistaken."
Posted by greg | February 12, 2008 9:45 PM
I find the implied question of "What is the party going to do with the Ron Paul Republicans" sort of funny because, as a Ron Paul Republican, I feel the question you should be asking is "What are the Ron Paul Republicans going to do with the party?"
Posted by Lisa B | February 12, 2008 9:49 PM
I'm a Paul voter and multiple time donor. If, for some odd reason, I cannot vote for him I vote for NO ONE.
Posted by Larry | February 12, 2008 9:57 PM
Thank you for pointing out what the controlled media seems to totally not want to report.
It is a real shame that the GOP has turned it's back on its founding principles of small government and liberty. But it's not hard to believe with all the money they are making under the table.
"We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "
The presidential candidates are applying for the job to "...uphold and defend..." this document which is our Rule of Law for the land. However, time and time again they allow bills to be passed that take away from the rights of the citizens.
Anyhow, good luck people. Please research, review, decide and VOTE!
Posted by DanielC in SC | February 12, 2008 9:57 PM
Even though I don't believe he understands economics, I will vote for Obama if Ron Paul doesn't get the Republican nomination. I suspect the same will be true of the majority of current Paul supporters.
Posted by David Ballou | February 12, 2008 10:00 PM
I, too am a Ron Paul Supporter. I registered for the first time (in my 30s) so that I can vote for Ron Paul.
I live in a "closed primary" state. I will remain a Republican after Ron Paul, because their basic platform is more how I think. Low taxes and low government.
RON PAUL TAUGHT ME THAT I AM A REPUBLICAN AND DEFINED BUSH AS A "NEO-CON"!! I did more reading and couldn't agree more.
While I agree with "dom youngross" that McCain would be the worst of the three (now that I know what I'm talking about, McAmnesty is a RINO)...I will write in Ron Paul's name come November!
Posted by VoiceofReason | February 12, 2008 10:07 PM
"Nontraditional Republicans" ? I guess that means in this day and age "nontraditional republicans" are fiscal conservatives, who obey the constitution, fight for privacy and property rights, civil liberties, and our national sovereignty, who call for openess in government. If thats a "nontradional republican" well, I guess I fall into that niche. I'll hold my allegiance to whoever espouses the traits. You have to be ignorant and naieve to vote the party line these days. I voted Bush in 2000 when he preached the above traits. Call me a fool.
Posted by kyle sanders | February 12, 2008 10:08 PM
You don't need to guess, you only need to look at what's going on right now.
Dr. Paul is steering people in droves into the Republican party RIGHT NOW. He's doing it by indicating that he actually has read the supreme law of the land and, astonishingly, intends to abide by it.
The question isn't what he intends to do to keep people in the party. The question isn't even whether his "followers" will walk out of the party if he doesn't make it.
The question is why the Republican party sees this flurry of activity and is doing everything in its power to spit in our faces.
For instance, find out who Chris Peden is.
Posted by Beatnik | February 12, 2008 10:10 PM
Wow dom youngross, you are a heretic. How can you vote for the decidedly UN socialistic Paul, and then turn coat and vote for Obama? You are a traitor to the GOP. Why did you even support Paul in the first place? He's the MOST conservative and would probably feel horrible if he knew you defected to Obama.
It doesn't even make sense. I think you are trolling.
Posted by NH | February 12, 2008 10:10 PM
I am a life long Republican. I have never voted for a Democrat and the thought of doing so sickens me a bit, but if McCain is the nominee this year I will cast a vote to the other side. I prefer Obama to Clinton, but both are more preferable then McCain.
Posted by Linda | February 12, 2008 10:11 PM
The Republicans and Democrats are the same party. Neither cares which party wins as long as it's one of the big-government globalist Establishment candidates that is served up on a platter to the public as a "choice". 90% of Ron Paul's supporters will vote for him even if they have to write him in. They are the only ones who get it and understand that a vote for Clinton, McCain, Obama or Huckabee is a wasted vote. All four of them are on the same team.
Posted by Dirk | February 12, 2008 10:22 PM
Ron Paul I believe is very, very important to what the Republicans truly represent, thus improving the chances of the Republican Party without a doubt. Honestly, for me it has never been about which party, but who has the best overall vision, and ideas, hitting the root causes of dissension and offering the solutions with the highest good of all concerned; but with such an obvious history of media blackout on Ron or others before him of the like, those only accessing mainstream media are at times ignorant of his refreshing 'big picture' concepts/teachings that would initiate massive global healing.
McCain I think may not yet have let go of the trauma that he went through during his service; I cannot feel that he is ready to make decisions consistently enough from his heart in such a place of power.
It seems there are a few in the current establishment that are scared of what Ron Paul represents, because much of their standpoint has been and still is too predatory (perhaps because that's just what they were used to). However, they are missing the whole point and advantage (or maybe just need to be enlightened), on liberty and freedom through moral and economic responsibility; and it is obvious why limited government is part of the answer/result. EVERYONE benefits. Today's government funded companies/jobs will end up becoming state and community based, with more than enough funds available locally through simple need for a provider, with curriculums decided close to the source, and all income tax otherwise diverted out of state initially, will instead be directed to and from the people right where it's needed.
This is very much a part of his appeal, because with his views, no deception is involved.
Ron Paul and his knowledge is important for every Party...
Posted by berian | February 12, 2008 10:30 PM
As a life long Republican it is easy for me to recognize that Ron Paul is the only Republican in the race. I'm not sure what the other candidates are? We were the world's lone superpower and we blow it on a preemptive war with a third world country? Double the size of the dept of ed? prescription drug programs? corn subsidies? $10 billion to Pakistan? The fed prints $130 billion? loss of civil liberties? As Republican we are told to support this? It's like a twilight zone episode, unfortunately my kids are going to have to pay for it. The babyboom generation is the worst generation ever!
Posted by Rand Thinker | February 12, 2008 10:33 PM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, or nobody. There's no other choice for fiscal conservatives. Obama is a socialist with globalist advisors, I'll never support that. I don't think the Republican's care to win with McCain, isn't it obvious? 100 years war? 'Gooks'? 'Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran'?. C'mon now!
It was only 8 years ago that Bush pretended to be a conservative to get into office and I don't think conservative thought has strayed as far as the media says it has. Ron Paul continues to be the ONLY choice for conservatives in this race.
Posted by temjrpgh | February 12, 2008 10:42 PM
I'm voting for Ron Paul, or nobody. There's no other choice for fiscal conservatives. Obama is a socialist with globalist advisors, I'll never support that. I don't think the Republicans care to win with McCain, isn't it obvious? 100 years war? 'Gooks'? 'Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran'?. C'mon now!
It was only 8 years ago that Bush pretended to be a conservative to get into office and I don't think conservative thought has strayed as far as the media says it has. Ron Paul continues to be the ONLY choice for conservatives in this race.
Posted by temjrpgh | February 12, 2008 10:43 PM
I'll second what Dom said...
Posted by Tim Stevens | February 12, 2008 10:43 PM
I will not vote for McCain.
The GOP had the chance to be the party of reason, peace and the defense of the US Constitution. They opted to continue stumbling aimlessly in a stupor.
Some things are much more important than party loyalty.
Posted by Idaho | February 12, 2008 10:44 PM
I have voted Republican for the past 32 years. Ron Paul has been the ONLY candidate (with Reagan a distant second) that I felt I could put my full faith and trust behind.
There is NO WAY that I would vote for McCain. In fact, if Ron Paul is not the nominee, I will write him in.
Trust me, Ron Paul supporters will not be selecting the "next best" candidate. This is not a wishy-washy group. We are concerned and dedicated citizens who have decided that "change" is necessary ... and we are going to make sure that change happens... not just minor change, but MAJOR change. The R3volution is not going to go away.
Posted by Sheryl | February 12, 2008 10:49 PM
Dom,
The establishment wants us to be discouraged and throw our vote to Hitlery. Whatever you do, do not throw your vote to anyone who doesn't support your views. This is not a horse race so you don't have to vote for the winner. In this race you don't get your money back or your freedoms. Any vote to anyone but RP is a vote towards the SSDD candidate. Think about it.
Posted by brandon | February 12, 2008 11:01 PM
You raise the question, "The question for Republicans is what happens to Paul's voters and donors?"
Most of Dr. Ron Paul's supporters are going to write him in as a candidate if it comes to that in November.
No one standing can even touch his advocacy for freedom and abiding by the constitution of the United States.
See you at the Freedom March in D.C.!!
Posted by brian | February 12, 2008 11:07 PM
It's Paul or nothing for me; no more evil.
Posted by Watcher | February 12, 2008 11:09 PM
Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater were libertarians who defined the Republican Party for many year but now the GOP establishment relegates libertarians and the advocates of small government to the fringe of the party. Many libertarian leaning Republicans will follow Ron Paul's call to reinvigorate the party and nation that George W. Bush has run into the ground as the many companies he headed before. Others will heed the call of Bob Barr and attempt to strengthen the Libertarian party to compete on an even playing field with the Donkeys and Elephants. All I know is that if the GOP turns its back on the Ron Paul Republicans, it turns away the new blood it needs to reinvigorate its future. Remember, Ronald Reagan wrote in his memoirs that "libertarianism is the soul of conservatism," and an entity that loses it's soul and purpose has lost all.
Posted by DF Robichaux | February 12, 2008 11:17 PM
Or, possibly both the democrats and the regular Republicans work for the people that give them money; the corperations. This is born out by government growing so much under Republicans during the last 8 years.
Posted by Sahadeva | February 12, 2008 11:18 PM
As someone who used to be somewhat apathetic towards politics, I am one of those people who was drawn to the GOP soley because of Ron Paul and the message he brought. If the Republicans no longer support those ideals, then we will move on. Fact is, we will find our place, be it with the GOP or without them.
Posted by Eric Dolive | February 12, 2008 11:19 PM
"The principles I stand for -- limited government, non-interventionism, respect for individual rights, and strict adherence to the Constitution -- have a long and proud tradition in the Republican Party.
Enough said. Oh yea, by the way, Dr. Paul was the 1st canidate to mention repealing the IRS and reducing expenditures. Funny how his message is now an issue without any mention of the first to make it vocal.
Posted by PaulFdot | February 12, 2008 11:22 PM
The Republican Party means nothing to me. All that matters to me are the issues. Ron Paul represents the issues that I think are vital to this nation. NONE of the other candidates are even close!! If he is out of it, I will not vote. I will not play the lesser of evils game. That just gets us more evil.
Right now, I am FAR more concerned about the threat from my government, intentional and otherwise, than I am from terrorism or any other of the threats against our nation. The continued devaluation of our currency is killing my standard of living, which is pretty modest and low budget. If you want to understand the biggest reason I support Ron Paul, do some research into the history of banking. Learn what truly causes inflation and find out that it has been well known for thousands of years!! Here are two fantastic sources that I HIGHLY recommend for everyone:
For a quick read, try 'What Has Government Done to Our Money?' http://www.mises.org/money.asp
For a more in depth read from Colonial times up through the modern banking system read, 'History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II' http://www.mises.org/books/historyofmoney.pdf
These can also both be purchased at Mises.org.
Posted by Scott F | February 12, 2008 11:34 PM
The Ron Paul campaign hasn't ended. We are mounting a write-in campaign. A gigantic march on DC is planned for June. We are not through. The Ron Paul movement continues to sweep the country. By November, we will be ten times as big a force. Freedom will triumph in the end.
Posted by Andrew Panken | February 12, 2008 11:43 PM
What happens to the votes of Ron Paul Supporters?
We write in Paul or vote third party. I've been a registered Republican voter for over twenty years and I have been abandonded by my party. I can't vote for the Dems because they want to increase spending and the size of the gov by over 200 billion dollars a year (source: NTUF), and I can't vote for a spendy, big government Rep either. At the moment I'm leaning toward the write-in. We'll see what happens but McCain, Clinton, or Obama will not get my vote.
Posted by pete | February 12, 2008 11:44 PM
A true Ron Paul supporter knows there is no substitute. I will vote for Ron Paul. And only Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the only one with Ron Paul's points and message. No one can pretend to take what he's saying just to get his votes. We need Ron Paul in the Oval Office.
Posted by Melanie Brady | February 12, 2008 11:49 PM
I will NEVER reward LIBERAL John McCain with a vote for President. He is more dangerous than either Clinton or Obama. I have been a conservative republican since Reagan. If Ron Paul does not appear on the ballot, I will write in.
Posted by steven orrange | February 12, 2008 11:51 PM
I am a 42 yr old life long republican. I will write in Dr. Paul's name regardless of what happens in the primary. If McCain gets the nomination I will change my registration to INDEPENDENT since the republican party is no longer.
Posted by Will Weigand | February 13, 2008 12:14 AM
I have been a life-long democrat (lesser of two evils), but I registered as a Repulican for the first time to vote for Ron Paul. I also contributed twice ($100.00 each time). I have never contributed to any candidate prior to this. I will be a healthy 70 years old in May, and can recognize b.s. when I hear it.
Dr. Paul is intelligent, honest, consistent, and he has, I believe, the best solutions to America's problems.
The so-called main stream media, neo-cons, marginalize him because of they are caught in the matrix of the one-world government proponents. Yoy know who they are.
Posted by Edwin Hirata | February 13, 2008 12:19 AM
Let's put it in perspective. Judging from the caucus and primary numbers, if Ron Paul were to run as an Independent under the 'Constitutional Conservative Party' or under the Libertarian Party, I'm pretty sure he would get the 5% needed to qualify the party for federally distributed public funding in the next election, and also qualify if for ballot status in many states.
Do the established Republicans want to be beaten at their own game?
Posted by Jesse Welling | Feb