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The Armenian question


If you haven't noticed -- and it's possible you didn't, what with all the children's health care, Iran, Iraq and presidential coverage -- some members of Congress are trying desperately to draw your attention to a nigh 100-year-old episode from World War I.


U.S. Reps. Adam Schiff (D-CA), George Radanovich (R-CA), Frank Pallone, Jr. (D-NJ), Joe Knollenberg (R-MI), Brad Sherman (D-CA) and Ed Royce (R-CA) want to recognize the murders of 1.5 million Armenians, presumably by the Ottoman-Turkish Empire between 1915-1923, as genocide.


The six lawmakers, all members of the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues, said the Armenian Genocide has been recognized by more than 20 nations including Canada, Italy, Sweden, France, Argentina and Russia, and note that the House has passed resolutions on the Holocaust and the genocides in Cambodia, Darfur, Ukraine and Bosnia.


Many Democrats are reluctant, however, to back the resolution for fear that it will damage realtions with Turkey, a vital U.S. ally in the region. The relationship is an extremely fragile alliance, according to the National Security Network.


-- Brian DeBose, national political reporter, The Washington Times

Comments (11)

This is absoluty immoral to abuse H. Res. on Armenian Genocide to attack US Congress and others.

Why should the "partnership" of US with Turkey be built on the foundation of lies and denial, this is the denial of Armenian Genocide and denial of kurdish issue by Turkey. Such a "parnership" will not exist for a long time at all.

Denying the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is denying a part of US history. During the Armenian Genocide many American diplomats, US organisations , missionaries ,US citizens, tried to stop this genocide.

Americans helped to save many people's lives in different ways at that time. By passing the resolution, the US Congress is going to pay its respects to these courageous Americans, too.

Turkey is talking a lot about Turkish "pride." Maybe the passage of H.Res 106 on the truth about the Armenian genocide is the "pride" of America, because freedom, morality, and justice are American values. AND TURKEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS!

What is the point of your Article? Are you saying that in 30 years it won't be a good idea to recount the WWII Holocaust? The fact is, the Turkish government continues to cover-up the Armenian Genocide, and we can't be complicit in that cover-up in this nation.

After arriving to the US almost 5 years ago from Ankara to pursue graduate studies, I have realized that most of our hisotry prof's were deliberatly withholding facts from students about the traggic events of 1915 and textbooks were full of disotrions about the Armenian genocide. I sincerely hope that passage of the genocide bill will furhter awaken other Turks to the truth devoid of crude rhetoric.

THIS IS SAD AND IMMORAL, WHEN SOME ARE ABUSING THE H. RES. TO ATTACK PELOSI AND US CONGRESS...

US doesn't have only " Abu Garbe etc"... Denying the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is denying a part of US history. During the Armenian Genocide many American diplomats, US organisations , missionaries ,US citizens, tried to stop this genocide . Americans help to save many peoples live in differnt ways at that time... By passing of the congressional Res. on Armenian Genocide US Congress is going to pay its respect to this couragous Americans too

Turkey is talking a lot about turkish "pride" maybe the passage of H.Res 106 on the truth about the Armenian genocide is the "pride" of America . Just because, freedom, Moral, justice are American values... AND TURKEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS!!!


Back IN 2000!
GEORGE W. BUSH RECOGNIZES ARMENIAN GENOCIDE


Republican Candidate Calls on Americans to Remember and Acknowledge "Facts and Lessons" of the "Genocidal Campaign" against the Armenians


George W. Bush for President
February 19, 2000

Mr. Edgar Hagopian
Mr. Vasken Setrakian


Dear Edgar and Vasken,

Thank you for your inquiry to my campaign regarding issues of concern to Armenian Americans.

The twentieth century was marred by wars of unimaginable brutality, mass murder and genocide. History records that the Armenians were the first people of the last century to have endured these cruelties. The Armenians were subjected to a genocidal campaign that defies comprehension and commands all decent people to remember and acknowledge the facts and lessons of an awful crime in a century of bloody crimes against humanity. If elected President, I would ensure that our nation properly recognizes the tragic suffering of the Armenian people.

The Armenian diaspora and the emergence of an independent Republic of Armenia stand as a testament to the resiliency of the Armenian people. In this new century, the United States must actively support the independence of all the nations of the Caucasus by promising the peaceful settlement of regional disputes and the economic development of the region. American assistance to Armenia to encourage the development of democracy, the rule of law and a tolerant open society is vital. It has my full support.

I am encouraged by recent discussions between the governments of Armenia and Azerbaijan. The United States should work actively to promote peace in the region and should be willing to serve as a mediator. But ultimately peace must be negotiated and sustained by the parties involved. Lasting peace can come only from agreements they judge to be in their best interests.

I appreciate the tremendous contribution of the Armenian community to the United States. The Armenian community has been and will continue to be a model of dedication to values of faith and family.

Sincerely,

signed
George W. Bush

Bernard Lewis said it was not a genocide but a collateral damage caused by a collapsing Empire, the Ottoman Empire, during World War One.
And Mr. Lewis is a highly renowned historian, his word has weight.

Shame on Turks and their country build on blood and skull of other nations

Regarding the Armenian Allegations, not all courageous and respected Americans find these claims true.

I would like to share the following statements with you:

*Admiral Robert Bristol III, U.S. High Commissioner to Istanbul 1919-1927:

"I see that reports are being freely circulated in the United States that the Turks massacred thousands of Armenians in the Caucasus. Such reports are repeated so many times it makes my blood boil. The Near East Relief have the reports from Yarrow and our own American people which show absolutely that such Armenian reports are absolutely false. The circulation of such false reports in the United States, without refutation is an outrage and is certainly doing the Armenians more harm than good." [Letter to Dr. J.L. Barton, March 28, 1921]

*Captain Emory Niles and Mr. Arthur Sutherland, Mission of the U.S. Government to Eastern Anatolia 1919:

"In the entire region from Bitlis through Van to Bayezit we were informed that the damage and destruction had been done by the Armenians, who, after the Russians retired, remained in occupation of the country and who, when the Turkish army advanced, destroyed everything belonging to the Musulmans. Moreover, the Armenians are accused of having committed murder, rape arson and horrible atrocities of every description upon the Musulman population. At first we were most incredulous of these stories, but we finally came to believe them, since the testimony was absolutely unanimous and was corroborated by material evidence. For instance, the only quarters left at all intact in the cities of Bitlis and Van are the Armenian quarters, as was evidenced by churches and inscriptions on the houses, while the Musulman quarters were completely destroyed. Villages said to have been Armenian were still standing whereas Musulman villages were completely destroyed" [U.S. 867.00/1005].

*Colonel Charles Furlong, Army Intelligence Officer, U.S. Delegate to the Paris Peace Conference:

"We hear much, both truth and gross exaggeration of Turkish massacre of Armenians, but little or nothing of the Armenian massacres of Turks. ... The recent so-called Marash massacres [of Armenians] have not been substantiated, in fact, in the minds of many who are familiar with the situation, there is a grave question whether it was not the Turk who suffered at the hands of the Armenian and French armed contingents which were known to be occupying that city and vicinity.
...
"[O]ur opportunity to gain the esteem and respect of the Moslem world ... will depend much on whether America hears Turkey's untrammeled voice and evidence which she has never succeeded in placing before the Court of Nations. ... [A right decision on the treatment of Turkey] will bind closer ... the eastern and western world [while a wrong decision] will be a calamity and may again set aflame an infinitely greater fire than that which seems to be smothered." [March 23, 1920 Letter to President Woodrow Wilson]

Sir, Turkey also opened its archives to the examination of this history and has proposed a Joint History Commission, stating on numerous occasions that it will accept its findings.

I wonder why the close relationship between Turkey and the United States should go worse because of these lies.

There is a legitimate historical controversy concerning the interpretation of the events in question and most of the scholars who have propounded a contra genocide viewpoint are of the highest calibre and repute, including Bernard Lewis, Stanford Shaw, David Fromkin, Justin McCarthy, Guenther Lewy, Norman Stone, Kamuran G�r�n, Michael Gunter, Gilles Veinstein, Andrew Mango, Roderic Davidson, J.C. Hurwitz, William Batkay, Edward J. Erickson and Steven Katz.

This is by no means an exhaustive list. A good number of well-respected scholars recognize the deportation decision in 1915, taken under World War I conditions, as a security measure to stop the Armenians from co-operating with the foreign forces invading Anatolia.

On the legal aspect, the elements of the genocide crime are strictly defined and codified by the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Genocide, adopted by the General Assembly on 9 December 1948. However, Armenians, claiming that "the evidence is so overwhelming", so far have failed to submit even one credible evidence of genocide.

So much for original thinking by Mr. Takman. His posting is copied verbatim from a denialist article submitted to the New Statesman by Orhan Tung, Press Counsellor at Turkish embassy in London and published on October 23, 2007 (http://www.newstatesman.com/200710230001).

Or maybe both of them plagiarized the text from a directive issued by the government of Turkey?

Turkey's denialist party-line will go nowhere; fortunately there are Turks like Taner Akcam and
Ali Kazancigil who are brave enough to look truth in the face.

The US media doesn't touch in this issue :

Turkish lobbyists ....
De Volkskrant
Dutch daily newspaper
19 October 2007
By our correspondent Philippe Remarque
...
Watch now the Turks. How it works exactly is hard to find out. It's better to ask the PR office which is hired by Turkey says the office of representative. The PR-office replies: We don't communicate on this matter.
Fortunately, America keeps close record of the currency flow. The documents show that former representative Livingston, now an influential lobbyist, has received 12 million dollars from Turkey in the last 8 years in order to prevent successfully the adoption of the Genocide resolution. He is now active again according to the registers.
Take for instance representative Bobby Jindal who received from Livingston 10 thousand dollars donation for his campaign for governorship. Two months later, Jindal withdrew his support for the Genocide resolution.
Turkey also brought into action former presidential candidate Dick Gephardt. He is lobbying now against the Genocide resolution for an annual pay of 1.2 million dollars."

Well people in Europe are aware of the Turkish genocide in Armenia. Turks over their 500 years rule in Eastern Europe and Middle East have committed so many atrocities, that are far more hated for "collateral damage" then are Germans for the WWII. Even today in some parts of the Balkans if you want to insult someone, you would call names: turks,turk and such.
Genocide in Armenia "has been recognized by more than 20 nations including Canada, Italy, Sweden, France, Argentina and Russia" are those nations entirely stupid or perhaps "payed off" by Armenian government to recognize the truth in this case.
In my book this is an A++++ for US Congress.

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